I can't not respect them.
this level of fun and joy for their craft is nothing but commendable
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Most indies have this level of fun and joy for their craft, they just don't have the rent money from releasing Hollow Knight to spend 7 years on a project /light-hearted
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Part of me wish I didn't know what Jira was from first hand experience.
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So much hate for JIRA in the comments here. JIRA is just a tool. It is only as evil as your studio's production processes allow it to be. If you hate JIRA, you really hate your studio's production process.
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Agreed, it’s entirely dependent on the pipeline. Jira is far and away my favorite. I’ve worked under some nightmare processes and proprietary tooling. The former ALWAYS impacts the latter.
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When we switched to Notion it instantly dawned on me that Jira wasn't that bad.
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Jira is worse than any of its competitors that I tried. It's not so much that it's evil, it's just a mess that causes more problems than it solves.
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true... -ish.

JIRA promotes a way of working, it is not a wholly passive tool.
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I am howling laughing at this!
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Why would you toy with our feelings like this Jason?
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I’m glad their development process has been so joyous and fulfilling for them, but…lol. All the same, it’s nice to get an “infinite time and money” project every now and then. This is the indie GTA VI.
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A wise man once said regarding task management software: "If ain't in my bucket, fuck it."
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Wasn't that a song by The Pissed Off Brothers?
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Absolute kings over there 👑
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I am a solo dev and have never heard of these things either. 🤷

Feels like being a smaller development team is an undeniably good thing in this day and age.
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I worked in QA for a bit with Jira and I'm a little confused. How else do people track bugs? Or is this aimed more towards the non-bug tracking aspects of these things?
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Well, when your non-contract workforce is 4 people...
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It's a nice way to work if you have infinite amounts of money and can simply never release a product.
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This doesn't tell me that Jira sucks, or that they're incompetent. It just tells me that they have a small team that communicates effectively.
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I was just about to repost your article with this exact screengrab
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I remember a long time ago a Junichi Masuda, of Pokémon fame, comment saying he wanted to go back to that, to 12-15-people development.

I think it was on the promotion of Little Town Hero, iirc.
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men will ask "What is Jira" but not "Why is Jira?"
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so many great quotes in this article. team cherry seems like a very wholesome and positive group.
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This exchange makes me itch
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Something is going on in #SouthDakota. Which notably was notorious white supremacist, #KristiNoem (`s) state. Where she was Governor before she was given DHS to turn into her own Nazi PoPo force.

bsky.app/profile/isthiswhatwewant.bsky.social/post/3lwwveugbck26
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But most importantly, why is Jira?
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Like newborns
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that innocence
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ngl - feeling a twinge of cynical envy
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We should all be so blessed
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Seriously though I'm happy for these guys that they just had fun and kept plugging away on their own terms until it was done. Independent game studios are a beautiful thing
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I love how their entire development process WAS spec drift
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No wonder the game took 7 years holy moly
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lol

I enjoyed the last sentence in your article. It feels like a joyful "I'm supposed to be neutral and just giving you the floor but take that in your face".
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Funny, because I love having JIRA tickets, at least in a well maintained production environment. Shows me dependencies (like, are the VFX of that asset still WIP or can I work with final visuals now?), who is the game designer if I have questions etc. etc. And it helps keeping my ADHD at bay ...
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I've also heard "what is jira" from devs on teams that actively use jira, so all in all these guys aren't doing too bad
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Developing software in 2025 without a task management tool...
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Almost all meta-work is for managers above you.
Small enough team and it can be counterproductive.
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No love for Jira here, but "a software" is one of my grammatical pet peeves. It's software.
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Know what? Good for them and whatever process they did use to manage their work.
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I mean, guilty as charged! But also I'm a small indie, so a to do list in a text file is good enough haha
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same but I'm a solo dev so... that's enough for me
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At the beginning I had a Google Keep list

but I haven’t used it for a few months
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oh my god that sounds like both the greatest and worst thing of all time
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good lord that's one of my main takeaways from Blood, Sweat, and Pixels: Game devs do IT work without IT tools. massive problem
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This reminds me of an old Counter-Strike prank, back when my "clan" was running their own servers. An experienced player would assume a new nickname, enter the game, ask a bunch of clueless questions to create the impression they were a newcomer, and then kick everyone's asses.
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yeah, unfortunately that is virtually impossible to be sustainable and it doesn't happen for all devs, like at all. That attitude, wanting to go for the big hit to be able to do whatever you want afterwards is exactly the opposite to creativity, in my most humble opinion.
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Not a game dev, but having worked for software companies small, medium, and large that have and have not used Jira (or equivalents): this is the dream*. ☺️

(* Unless the company's just a hopeless, disorganized mess.)
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If you're on the "what is a Jira?" camp and had your Trello account deactivated, you probably have very miserable work management practices instead of some kind of utopia.

I now understand better how they've managed to cock up the development so bad.
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Is it a hot take that Jira is actually a good tool, and that it's agile methodology and people going crazy with the setup that make it hard to use?
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I don't think so. I use Gitlab at home and try to fully replace Jira with it, but honestly it's just not on par with management features. I do hate Jira as an admin though, bloated and a pain to configure.
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is jira like some kind of super app that is like getting pinged by Asana, Teams and Slack all at once or something
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I yearn for the days when I did not know what Jira was
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Jira is good for commonly repeated tasks and not a whole lot more, realistically.

When I was an escrow analyst, it was perfect for keeping track of customer reports of unpaid taxes or insurance, for quick investigation and fixing. Since the mortgage space utilizes third parties for this stuff
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we had to rely on them for the correct information a lot of the time. But most people aren't going to unprompted give their insurance companies the correct mortgagee-payee clause, so for insurance, our third parties might not even be aware you have insurance. And since they let US know what needs
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Holy scope creep x.x fucks sake
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They tore apart the shackles of oppression 🙌
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"It all came down to their development style, which may have been too much fun."

Bro what. These folks are living their best lives! They made a ton of money and are doing whatever they want with no financial stress! "Too much fun"--especially when developing a GAME--is not possible!
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I get that the prevailing idea is "studios have to release games or they die" and yeah sure that's true but you have to consider burn rate vs available funds. Just because the big studios are meat grinders that have to release a new billion dollar game every year doesn't mean that's the only way!
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Is it possible to learn this ignorance? They are blessed
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I just took psychic damage
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Jira is the new Trello and it's equally useless to me, an engineer. Every PM insists on using it though
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This is the dream
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This just ruined my day
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Anyone else happy that this wasn't a story of tragedy or trials?

So happy for Team Cherry!
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I know this is entirely unrelated, but I find it funny that Atlassian (makers of Jira) is one of the biggest tech companies to come from Australia, and Team Cherry is probably one of the biggest indie game devs to also come from Australia.
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PM: Can you imagine a world without project management software?
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JIRA is a side effect of a team getting too large and requiring more onerous management. There are diminishing returns and sometimes adding more team members just adds confusion these systems are supposed to address. Eventually all work slows as more time is spent validating work and tracking it.
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LoL been working with JIRA for only a few months now but this is EXACTLY the experience in my workplace.
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