If your dog need to have his ears and tail mutilated in order to win a dog show then fuck you and fuck your dog show.
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I have a corgi and I see no reason for their tails to be docked.
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Docking the tails of dogs is mostly illegal in Australia. It wasn't once, but now it is, so change is not only needed but possible.
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A bunch of control freaks.
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You mean a eugenics show right? ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
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I love my rescue just the way he is. โค๏ธ
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Rescues are my favorite breed ๐Ÿ’œ
I'm also particularly fond of the runts.
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Ear and tail docking is cruelty.
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Couldnโ€™t agree more! My pit bull has floppy ears and sheโ€™s gorgeous.
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No picture?? Rude, but okay. ๐Ÿคช
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Seriously, what is wrong with us?
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Agreed. I have known many Dobermans who lived a long and happy life without painful cosmetic surgery. They are cuter with floppy ears and a longer tail. This is cruel.
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To infinity
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Same with surgery to breathe.
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Agree ๐Ÿ’ฏ
Incidentally, have you ever seen an unaltered Doberman? They are beautiful. A friend has one. Deemed 'not suitable for breeding/show' he was sold 'as is' to the friend.
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Agree!
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Itโ€™s so lovely to have a dog wagging its tail. Canโ€™t imagine how much pain they suffer being cut. Apart from it being illegal!
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my roommate's dog hurt her tail one day and she looked so sad about needing to keep her emotions in check. it took her a couple days to recover but things that made her wag her tail like treasure hunt (hiding cocktail sausages bits in the house) or her owner coming back from home, she looked sad
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I'm personally horrified by dogs' tails being docked.

That's part of the dog's spine. I would never do it just to make a dog "look" a certain way (same with ears).

Same with declawing cats. It's not a fingernail, it's more like a finger-bone. None of my cats clawed furniture. I taught them not to.
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I agree with this statement. Docking should only be done for working dogs like Kangals, Boerbels, and multiple other breeds that are actively being employed to guard and herd livestock from things such as jackals, leopards, wolves, pumas, tigers, lions, African wild dogs, bears, and other predators.
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Seeing as these predators would gladly grab hold of and/or shred any part of the dog that they can grab hold of - said parts normally vulnerable to such things being the ears and tail.
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I agree, but personally, I'm more upset by circumcision.
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... well this is a whole new conversation huh
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I came to the comments to find this. I was thinking the same thing.
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The docking of the ears is done to protect the animal later for various reasons related to the jobs they do . Doberman for safty during a fight. Cattle dogs get their tails cut so cattle do not injure them while yhey are being herded . Docking ears and tails is not manditory but acceptable practice
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There are more than 20 breeds of dogs that they have breed to not have tails . Not all shortys are Docked .
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Australian Cattle Dog
Australian Shepherd
Austrian Pinscher
Bourbonnais Pointer (Braque du Bourbonnais)
Brazilian Terrier
Brittany Spaniel
Catahoula Leopard Dog
Croatian Sheepdog
Danish/Swedish Farmdog
Jack Russell Terrier
Karelian Bear Dog
McNab
Mudi
Pembroke Welsh Corgi
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I am not a forgiving person. This person showed their true character by voting for him in the first place. He showed his rascism throughout his campaign so no excuses. Stuff your apology where the sun never shines.
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100%. Mutilating a dog under the guise of breed "standards" is still mutilation and those so called "standards" encourage it. I lost any respect for AKC a long time ago for this very reason.
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My Corgi kept her tail. I like her that way.
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Omg. Seriously. I was (and am) so angry. ๐Ÿคฌ
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If people want tiny ears, the Shar Pei has tiny ears. No docking needed
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I get older dogs. My first 2 Norfolks tails had been done. The one I have now was born overseas and had not been done. When I took her for her 1st Vet visit they were shocked and happy to see her tail. Beyond me why you would do such a thing. I just want a happy dog.
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What a gorgeous pup! ๐Ÿ˜ Looks a bit like my CoCo, who is part Yorkie and part other things (dog, teddy bear, alien ๐Ÿ˜†) - she seems to have some Pom in her, and i have wondered if there's a bit of Norfolk in her, too.
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Agree
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That practice started with the working dogs to avoid injury and provide agility.
As science has advanced, some of the myths have been debunked. People who have working breeds are less likely to alter their appearance. This practices are banned in Europe as they should be in the US.
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โ€œItโ€™s so it looks like the breed!โ€

โ€œButโ€ฆ it literally came out like this.โ€
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HER ears, but yes! Our dog has a tail so long it is a weapon, but it is just HIM!
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So true. They also pull up on the leash and the dogs look like theyโ€™re choking.
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Without national legislation, it will continue. See: pretty much all of Europe and Switzerland. Banned and guess what? Canโ€™t show mutilated dogs.
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I never understood the point of ear and tail docking....
Or declawing a cat....
I hear some people have their dogs vocal cords cut so they can't bark.
Just get a fucking plant FFS... living creature is not for you.
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Omg Iโ€™ve never heard of them having vocal cords cut ๐Ÿ˜” I didnโ€™t know this was a thing. I hate people sometimes.
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Exactly!!
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only time it's valid to rid a dog of most or all of its tail is if it is causing issues to the dog
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Who are the vets who make money for these mutilations? ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฌ
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"This critter would be *perfect* if only it didn't have claws, floppy ears, a big ol' tail and make so much noise."
"So, you want to look at a fish?"
"What? No! Those tanks take up too much counter space."
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I am not a violent person but if I ever meet anyone who declawed a cat...

I* would tear them apart.

Physically.
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That practice, which involved working dogs, was once done to prevent injuries when they entered bushes. Poodles, it was done for agility purposes,to enhance their swimming speed. Ear docking was also believed to prevent infections. Most people today just do it for cosmetic. It needs to be banned!
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Some people declaw their indoor cats so they don't rip up the furniture.
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For which breeds is this intended for ?
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Working spaniels have their tails docked by some people. For working dogs, not shows. Itโ€™s discouraged & must be done by a vet.
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Many years ago, my ex-brother-in-law raised Great Danes. I was going to buy one of the puppies. but when he found out I wouldnโ€™t cut the dogโ€™s ears, he refused to sell the dog to me. Iโ€™ve always felt itโ€™s cruel to crop ears and/or tails to achieve a certain โ€œlookโ€.
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It is cruel. And against the law in a lot of Europe. As is declawing of cats.
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I am currently being cuddled by a Dobie with intact ears and tail! ๐Ÿฅฐ
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Dobes can be susceptible to skin issues.
One of mine has allergies and gets red, blotchy and itchy. Will scratch until bloody.
Benadryl is a lifesaver.
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He looks happier. They mutilate the ears & tail for dig fighting. It's repugnant.
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A real dog competition is watching them run at full speed and leap for distance into a pool. Or those crazy agility courses and seeing the bonds with their humans. Those dogs have a blast.
Those hoity toity dog shows aren't for dogs at all. Yuck
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No dog has ever agreed to body sculpting. I thought there were laws against animal torture.
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THANK YOU! Disgusting and cruel practices - no ethical vet could perform any of those procedures with a clear conscience.
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I always think that when I see dogs with docked ears & tail. Cannot imagine getting a puppy & doing such a thing.
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I concur. Ears should be floppy and sometimes butterfly shaped ๐Ÿฆ‹
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Ears and tails intact ๐Ÿ‘
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So is circumcision yet, here we R, cutting baby boys.
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If you get a dog breed that needs tail forking or other destruction to do its "job", you are complicit in that dog's cruelty. That's not the breed for you, get a mutt.
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Agreed !!!
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Itโ€™s also to avoid broken tails in working dogs and hematomas in the ears in those breedsโ€ฆ.

They arenโ€™t doing it because itโ€™s cute. Breed standards stem from health expectations and precautions. The ear thing is included in pit bulls too.

I encourage you to read about origins and why
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The Royal Kennel Club has banned cropped ears for at least 100 years. Just because you and the AKC think it's okay doesn't mean you're right.
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This is a sh*tty rationalization. If your animal is so inbred that it can't function without being surgically mutilated, then you have a problem, not the animal.
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Yeah, nah. That's all bullshit.
The stupid practice has been banned in Australia for decades and there's plenty of working dogs here.
Kelpie's and heelers run around sheep and cattle all day, every day and somehow manage to not get their tails broken.
Just looking for excuses.
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Agreed; and dog shows are not for working dogs. Also we have far less painful methods of treating both tails and ears such that the costs incurred are unnecessary.

This practice may not be useless; but what it IS is *obsolete*.
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BS - itโ€™s to make them look โ€œ betterโ€ and no other reason at all . Plenty of working dogs like Border Collies, Beagles etc etc all have the tails they were born with
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Oh shut up! Those conditions don't exist now. Breed standards are crap, pure crap. Breeding for beauty and wins but not health. How about the handlers are judged on weight and body type, as well?
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Also the cropped ears prevent ears being grabbed and torn when theyโ€™re working as a guard dog. Theyโ€™re working dogs and that was part of the standard.
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They aren't going to listen to reason on this, unfortunately.
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Working dogs tails are not at risk of being broken. That's ancient old wives tails. Dogs move better and are more agile with tails intact as they have better balance. Ask any ethical veterinarian. So called breed standards have destroyed working dogs, they're crippled compared to original standard.
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I call utter BS on tail docking on working dogs. They need the tails for balance and maneuvering, Australian Cattle dogs with docked tails are ridiculous.
Ps Iโ€™m not against dogs shows per se. But docking is dumb.
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Preach
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Precisely. Dog shows are bad enough given the ridiculous breed standards.....
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There are good veterinarians out there who will not do this. Amen.
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fuckin a right
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My aunt and uncles Boxer has pointy ears with no cropping, a lot of people use a purely aesthetic ear taping on the puppies to give them pointy ears, proves that cropping is not necessary
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Dobies look so cute with floppy ears. Not to mention they get fewer ear infections.
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Same with Great Danes
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That's the sign that they NEED the ears they were born with. ๐Ÿ˜ 
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So do Pitties!!!
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We refused an apartment because they only allowed declawed cats. No, I'm not cutting off my cat's fingertips for you.
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strongly agree
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Thank you for saying that.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
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Agreed
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My feelings exactly. ๐Ÿ•
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Look at a German Shepherd from the 80s and look at the back hips now. People breeding problems into dogs is also a problem.
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And the people who mutilated the dog.
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and the people who have their dog mutilated, and still abandon the dog to add literal insult to the literal injury.
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The people that show dogs are a breed of their own.
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This is exactly how I feel but felt like I was the only one.
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I love a dobie with ears and a tail...that tail is the true weapon anyway...
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I fuckin agree ๐Ÿ’ฏ
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Also, fuck breed "standards" that require mother dogs to get C-sections or cause long-term health problems. I like the merry disposition of pugs. We had a pug corgi mix who had a genuine nose (no breathing issue) but a cute underbite that gave her a puggish look. Change the standards.
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๐Ÿ’ฏ. Why put dogs and puppies through this physical and emotional pain? Doberman Pinschers with intact ears and tails shouldnโ€™t be a revolutionary concept. Leave ALL dogs alone - โ€œcosmeticallyโ€! Why not just have a human kid, and give it a post-birth nose job? ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™€๏ธ So-called โ€œdog lovers.โ€
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Thank you for saying the exact thing I'm thinking.
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My dog does not have a docked tail. Furthermore, due to recessive genes, it is a complete circle held proudly in the air above her butt. My job is to keep the leash OUT OF HER TAIL!
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Tail docking and ear cropping keep working and hunting dogs safe while doing their jobs. If the puppy isnโ€™t going to be used for hunting/working I see no point in doing it. My sonโ€™s Springer Spanielโ€™s tail is beautiful! It has the prettiest long, curly hair!
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I admit that I was surprised when I heard that a Doberman had won, then I saw a pic and the ears were cropped. I was shocked at that point. I thought that abomination had stopped years ago.
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๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
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Every dog is special
Humans not so much
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Really!! That has always bothered me. I was wonder if dogs suffer from that phantom pain syndrome after having their tail amputated. ๐Ÿ˜ข
It is so inhumane.
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Oh please, so not spaying and neutering, or cut feral cat ears then. No baby boys circumcisions too.
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What the fuck are you on about?
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Yep. "Breed Standard"

"It's simply what's done, Old Chap"
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Only in America. We're so damn stupid.
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๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ™Œ
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You should see what they do to bulldogs. Inbred so much they are tortured just breathing.
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Some estimates show that 80-95% of Bulldogs are born Cesarean. Cuz their heads are too big to deliver naturally
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Pugs struggle too
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The inbreeding in pure breds is disastrous. If you want to see it in human terms look at maga
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๐Ÿ˜†๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ‘
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I worked at a vet for years when I was a kid. Gave me nightmares. Humans are just greedy vicious gross. Thanks for expressing these thoughts! This reminder hit me like a gut punch. Fk them all.
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Not the dog's fault.
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Just after they stopped docking tails as a matter of course in the UK I met the Rottie from down the road and it was such a waggy dog - he talked with his tail! I canโ€™t imagine why youโ€™d want to restrict that
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Cropping dog ears and declawing cats should only be legal if the owners under the procedure first.
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Declawing cats is literally cutting their toes off at the tips. Itโ€™s so fucked up. Completely agree do it to the owners first!
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No disagreement if it is for a dog show. If the vet says it should be done for legit health reasons, I fully support it.
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Agree. Many breeders are opting out of this now.
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Youโ€™ve explained amerikkka perfectly.
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This is about the show itself. The standard is the problem, not just the people who follow it. The rule creates the demand.
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