do you want "Catholicism but american" we invented that, it's called Episcopalianism and it's even more woke. all the priests are lesbians. good luck
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Other than the fact that the Episcopal church started as the US branch of the church of England, the big thing is that we let you think.
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ofc the coe is "catholic but bri'ish"
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i literally first learned about puberty blockers at an episcopalian retreat about incorporating queer christians into the church lol (i was a layperson for 15 years)
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The nuns are too. You still get badass nuns, and ones plenty likely to slap your hand with a ruler in class, but the priests can marry and be any gender. No male nuns tho which I always thought was unfair.
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What they really want is to just dress up their megachurches in the skin of Catholicism. They want the history and the glamour, but none of the accountability to anyone but themselves.
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Uh, no. The Scots adopted the name first.
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I thought Episcopalian was ANGLICAN but American;

English (Henry VIII) invented Catholic but English, which is the Church of England, i.e. Anglican, so the King could get divorced
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I think it's Mormonism. Deliberately alienates their children from the rest of society, insanely puritanical and perverted, emphasizes material accumulation as proof of righteousness, and explicitly makes women property.
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cradle Catholic turned Episcopalian here, when people ask why I love my church I tell them it’s because it’s full of young families and old lesbians
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I’m a lapsed Catholic who just started going to an Episcopalian church. I wanted the ritual and community without the intolerance. Feels like a good fit so far.
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I thought Episcopalian was US version of Anglican/Church of England. "Protestant Episcopal Church in the USA"
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It is. But the CoE is also basically closer to Catholicism than the rest of the Protestant splits.

My first parish had midweek services with the Angelus! Forward Movement publishes 'Saint Augustine's Prayer Book' so people who are privately a bit closer to Catholicism have TEC materials for it!
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there are fewer bones and the services don't fuck as hard, though, so you are giving some things up.
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yeah, there's a reason the hot popstars are cradle catholics
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Um actually quite a lot of our services fuck harder than the Romans' tyvm
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that's. i mean, it's more like anglicanism but american
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An Anglicanism is just Catholicism, but Henry can get divorced.
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sometimes anglicanism is protestantism, but other times anglicanism is catholicism. in a vibes-y way, i mean
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but the archbishop of Canterbury is a woman too so that's pretty woke
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I'm an Episcopalian and I approve this message
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God we’re so much more woke, it’s awesome.
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damn. i may have still been a believer if i was raised this way instead of as a southern baptist.
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the only religious affiliation I still feel somewhere in my heart, O Episcopalianism...
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Quakerism is based on the premise that anyone gets to speak. There's no dogma to contradict. It's stupidly woke.
Those Catholic converts don't want to create. They want to usurp the authority and command reverence.
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The Quaker meeting in fleabag is one of the hardest I've ever laughed
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Wait it’s just social dominance orientation all the way down
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I have issues with the Vatican, but I don’t pretend to be a Catholic. I do however share their belief that the American government is being run by creeps.
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(Yes, I know basically every U.S. presidency was questionable or outright wrong, but I’m focusing on the current one.)
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As an atheist, I can assure you that, annoyingly, episcopalians are some of the most tolerant Christians I've ever interacted with.
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Alot of people want Gilead
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go ahead and try to start “evangelical Christianity but for people who read,” good luck finding a pastor willing to drive a toyota corolla
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the only conservative americans who read all have jd's from notre dame law and they're all already on the shortlist for the supreme court
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Methodists. Those are Methodists. Who notoriously just had their own schism over left and right sides of LGBT issues.
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Uh. I know about 928374923847 pastors and half of them drive Honda Fits, which are cheaper than Corollas.
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You don’t need to know pastors to know this isn’t true. Per BLS the 2023 median clergy salary is $59k. www.bls.gov/oes/2023/may/oes212011.htm
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As the joke goes, Methodists are just Baptists who can read.
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did they shut down l'abri or do they not even know about that now
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Corolla? My pastor dreams of driving in such luxurious sportster. My pastor lashed together the leftover pinewood derby entries pulled by a team of chaste hamsters. It is painted to look like a Mitsubishi Mirage.But her glasses are very clean- for the reading.
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Those are just calvinists reformed folks only they read Greg Bahnsen/Doug Wilson or Meredith Kline and his camp.
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Grew up in both the US Catholic (more old world ish in the 70’s) & East Coast Episcopalian traditions. Catholics stressed good works (helping poor etc) sex is bad, fish on Friday & guilt.

Episcopalians talked peace & equality & ethics & had bearded guitar-playing ministers & eventually women.
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No “folk masses” at your RC church in the 70s? Must be the only one.
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My dad's going to be really surprised to find out he's lesbian.
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My dad isn’t lol
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nah, he knows
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lutheranism is “catholicism but you’re allowed to think the pope and clergy are just some guy, and being in trouble is a fake idea.” depending on the synod it ranges from “boring dilute catholic” to “woke as hell”
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Also ethnic as hell. German/Scandinavian services for decades. Lutherans who wanted to speak English set up their own congregations. Mom’s church stayed loyal to the Muttersprache.
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Yeah when I was a teen my Dad's buddy once invited us to his Missouri Synod Lutheran Church after his son died and it was kinda like Catholicism meets the Bass Pro Shops parking lot.
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“Yeah, they covered this in 200AD. But go on, buddy.”

Lolz
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You do realise Episcopalianism is Anglican and therefore English not American
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Hey where did Anglicanism come from again?

It was [checks notes] Hinduism but with a Hindu Pope chosen by the king of England, right?

No?

Samaritanism offshoot, then?
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Ah so that’s why my dad because a catholic
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What these guys want is the 19th century Anglican Church complete with bloody banners from colonial wars over the altars
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They’ll probably settle for the 16th- or 17th-cent. Anglican Church, too.
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Or just the Episcopal Church of Leonidas Polk.
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They want Urban II
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Bioshock Infinite ass shit
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didn’t robin williams describe episcopalianism as “catholic lite”?
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“Male and female God created them; male and female we ordain them.”
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Having grown up Episcopalian it was a joke I heard a lot, along with "Catholic without the guilt"
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That’s the Lutherans
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I went to a Catholic high school. When my history teacher asked who in our class wasn’t Catholic, we had a Methodist, one Presbyterian, and when I said I was Episcopalian, he said “that doesn’t count” and moved on.
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America is great at inventing religions. All tax free.
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is there a catholic but queer asking for a friend
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also Episcopalianism. and now Methodism too
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There’s a real-world answer to the question of “what if american protestants invented their own catholic church” and it’s mormonism
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there is also the evangelical churches
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Not all of them but...deffo super woke!
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Episcopalians are Protestants. Catholicism but American is Opus Dei. Yes, I know it hasn’t originated in the US but that’s what the catholics in power in the US are.
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Tradcath freaks losing their shit over 'everyone welcome' signs, not realizing that they are the sinners being called to the work of repentance in this structure.
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The idea that contrition and repentance should be difficult, should sting a little, drives these "I'm tough I can take anything" freaks up the wall.

Weaker than a child at their first confession.
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* Lowers tea cup, turns head slightly, and tuts just a little *

That who exactly invented?

I realise the moral high ground is a difficult place for us to stand when it comes to making off with the cultural heritage of other countries. Nonetheless, this is a bit U-571.
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But it sounds way less cool to say "which we stole years after a horny king decided Rome sucked"
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in the uk they're "anglicans in bits that aren't english" but the lesbian and gay priests thing holds up
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unless generic-you support throwing trans children out of hospitals and straight to the wolves, you too have an interpretation and the pope strongly disagrees with it tbc
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😂😂 raised Episcopalian here
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Unfortunately the British invented this.
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Exactly was coming to say it's very Anglican.
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The British invented "Catholicism but British", but Americans invented "British Catholicism but American"
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I mean what is more American than taking something the British made and calling it ours?
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Howling. My small-town Presbyterian church was really annoyed because the local Episcopalian church got a divorced woman as an assistant pastor first.
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I thought Jesus loved everyone...my bad
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what would you recommend for non-americans who ARE religious but feel deeply unwelcome in Christianity, including "progressive churches", due to being a trans woman, a sexual abuse survivor, and Christianity feeling like a white supremacy pro patriarchy culture
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I got baptised by a lesbian in the Uniting Church of Australia and one of the elders in my mum's congregation is trans so it's worth checking out. But it's a congregation by congregation question.
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Wicca and I'm not even joking
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the Quakers, honestly.

probably a lot of Unitarians too, I'm guessing
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Genuine recommendation: when I was in college I knew a religious trans woman who didn't go to her church (because it made her feel unsafe) but who connected with other trans women of faith online to talk about their faith together and have regular meetings. There should be more spaces for that.
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Reform Judaism?
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I'm not sure where you are, but I found this site which helps find LGBTQ-friendly churches:
www.gaychurch.org/find_a_church/

Maybe that can help.
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quakerism!
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I feel like UUs may be up your alley if they don’t count as Christians for you. Or the Sikhs; they seem to be nice people what with the “all houses of worship are required to maintain a vegan soup kitchen“ deal
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