Preemptively announcing you are going to pardon your staff isn’t just rewarding criminals for their crimes—it’s encouraging them to commit new ones.
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Absolutely. He’s putting them on notice!!
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And it is breaking your Oath of Office to protect the laws of the US. Pardoning a drug lord for money is criminal. Pardoning a political operative committing a political crime is treason.
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🎯🎯🎯
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Preemptively pardoning everyone in his cabinet +, are admitting guilt of a crime.
This is why I understood what Biden did by protecting those close to him from retribution, but felt this act would certainly be used for evil by PINO FOTUS.
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Sorry for ineptitude, but PINO FOTUS?
Sounds catchy. Deets?
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Not even pretending to care about consequences anymore. 😭
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That’s exactly what he’s doing. It’d be funny if he got them to commit atrocities and felonies, and then died or got impeached before he pardons everyone. He’s living on borrowed time either way. And last, but most important, can you really trust him? I mean, really?
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End answer: if you're insane and living a fake life.
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It’s also an admittance that they have broken the law.

For those o/s of 200 feet boundary, you’re on your own.
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But the snake can eat its own tail now.
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I'm sure that's the message he is giving them
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That is indeed the point obviously. We may want to push for a Federal judicial opinion now that promising pardons pre-crimes invalidate the pardons. Sounds like a possible avenue with State courts and The Hague being the courts of last resort.
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It means they will be breaking the law.
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The courts need to start taking huge chunks of their assets instead of jail time. Pardoning them can mean no jail time, but it doesn't mean they get their assets back.
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Doesn't it? A whole lot of judgements are going unpaid because of Donnie's pardons.
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I would hope that constitutes a prosecutable criminal conspiracy that would nullify the actions.

I fear not. I fear the law is now something merely to be manipulated by those with the power to do so - not that it hasn't always been to a large extent, but now, to the Nth degree.
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Yeah, but they're in panic mode with an unlicensed driver at the wheel.
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Exactly the point
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That is exactly what he is doing. Telling them to do anything to keep himself in the Office.
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The impeachment ratified by the next Senate should include language prohibiting any pardons to be issued by the criminal-in-chief.
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That is not legal, but you’re correct about the encouragement.
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Just gonna state the obvious. The Head Law Enforcement official of the United States cannot do this.

A sitting president cannot do this

The idea that you can do this excludes the Executive office within our Constitutional order

Its an admittal that the Constitutional Republic was overthrown
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Completely different than when Biden pardoned his family members to protect them from vindictive incoming administration -- but I doubt the media will portray it as such.
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The next insurrection should be a hoot!
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That’s why he wants to build a bunker underneath that stupid ballroom.
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Aren’t people supposed to be hanged for treason?
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Remember when MAGA maligned Biden for giving pardons?
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Preemptive pardons cannot be constitutional. All people are innocent until convicted. Innocent people cannot be pardoned.
This has got to stop.
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Is this about people placing bets?
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Well then, I hope the fat, demented bastard drops dead or is removed before his term is up, and he has time to pardon anyone. Of course, I’ve been hoping he’d drop dead or be removed from the start, lol.
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It might work unless trump dies suddenly before pardoning anyone.
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Promising pardons in the future is typical Trump modus operandi.
He promises future rewards for immediate benefits to him.
Pardon promises also mean that his admin must keep him alive and in office, and happy with their "work", until the pardons arrive.
Likely they'll be hung out to dry as "losers".
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Trump always lies
Trump only lies
....and breaks contracts
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I think he’s begging them to not declare him mentally unfit (or blackmailing them, whatever floats your boat)
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It's preparing your staff for the things they don't yet know they will have to do.
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It’s like hitting the gas…
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Don't give me ideas. Theoretically, of course. 🤔😐
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Big joke when they find out the validity is null and void because he was too stupid to take a valid Oath, and was stupid with advanced syphilitic dementia and so batshit+Lindellshit nutso he couldn't legally sign anything.

P.S. - He will not do it before he dies. Too much leverage.
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If your king can pre-emptively pardon people, you don't have a system of justice, or laws but instead a Sultanate
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Yes. That is the point.
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It is an admission of intent and an admission of guilt to all who carry out his illegal orders.
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It’s also admitting that all of you are doing crime.
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It is a punk bitch version of a crime boss. Its most, perhaps only admiral trait, is its ability to influence losers.
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The worst of the worst.
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Trump promised the J6 criminals or spirited tourists to pay for their defense. How did that work out?
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I see that as the main concern.. He is about to push more boundaries & is trying to persuade those who may worry about going too far that they will be untouchable. They need to know that they are not.
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Shortsightedness is a prime feature of Trumpism.
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It’s establishing a corrupt understanding rendering accepting the pardon a separate illegal act.
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If it isn't a crime to do that, like suborning perjury, then it should certainly be one. But this congress doesn't have the courage to pass that law.
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And they’re so stupid they will commit state crimes. 🤣
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Maybe SCOTUS will “interpret” the pardon power as to be used for a conviction that has already occurred, not a @preemptive pardon for a future crime not committed yet????
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the trum/pedo crime syndicate's recipe for success.
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Also, does he think that his lackeys will be federally charged. People saw how much he abuses pardons. It will be expected that they will be pardoned. I have a different idea. Every Trump official in his regime should be sent to the Hague. And every ICE and CBP agent charged by the state and their
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federal immunity waived. Each ICE and CBP agent should be detained by the state with a judicial warrant based on suspected violations of state law beyond the scope of their duties.
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Without question, he is signaling them to be ready to stage another coup, kill American citizens, whatever it takes to remain in power and out of jail.
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Begging, really, and not very cleverly.
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It's what the Trump kakistocracy does. Recruit the worst of the worst. Direct them to commit crimes. Promise them pardons so that they will commit more crimes. Everyone who voted for Trump must be held accountable.
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But think, trump dies of an anurism (sp. approximate) tonight, God forbid! Then what? Do they all go to jail? Or God forbid?

HELL?
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Put them in Dilley (sp. approximate) and forget them?
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Ummmm, I’m pretty sure that was the point. I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.
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THAT is the worrying part, given what is coming in November - and is at stake right now...!
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I would like to think that any crime, at the very least, committed after this statement would not be eligible for a pardon.
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It's also a subtle threat: Without me, you're toast.
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I'm sure those pardons will have a $$$ price tag attached to them.
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Exactly the message he’s sending.
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He’s telling them all to defy congressional subpoenas.
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How did they conice you that they could nt possibly govern without beng criminals?

They cant govern and be criminals.

The government literally, illegally made it up to protect itself from us.

Immunity is made up and un-American.

What there is, is a 14th Amendment.
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Absolutely, and if anyone is good at committing crimes it’s THE PERVERT IN THE PRESIDENCY ☠️💩🤬💯🙌
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Trump is a criminal. And the entirety of the GOP is, as well. Shut them down- we don’t need a stupider mafia.
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He supposedly reversed all Biden's pardons right? So...
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I really don't think they will be encouraged...they just do crime as a way of life
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Pardons are a constitutional tool, but they’re also controversial when discussed in advance. The real issue is how accountability and deterrence are maintained within that system.
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According to US law, not that Trump cares, he can't pre-pardon anybody. If he tries, it will be found unconstitutional. A president cannot pardon anyone who hasn't been tried, convicted & sentenced first, which will never happen under this DOJ, but possibly during the next Democrat administration.
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I hope it’s because he thinks he’ll be leaving earth soon 🙏🏼
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Why would you need to promise that so early into his term 🤔
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Presumably the pardon only applies to those who stay "loyal", so this announcement makes it much harder for any staff who discover their conscience to quit the administration
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Criminal conspiracy is an agreement between two or more people to commit an illegal act, with the specific intent to achieve the agreement's goal. It is an inchoate crime, meaning the conspiracy is complete upon the agreement and a required overt act, even if the planned crime never occurs.
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Donald Trump often publicly encourages people to commit crimes

He also publicly admits to crimes

He also publicly commits crimes

For some reason his "Law & Order" followers think his crimes are awesome because they enjoy torturing and raping the innocent, they always have

A hypocrite circus
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At 79, he could be making promises he never gets around to finishing.
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Now there's going to be even MORE insider trading.
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Which is the whole point. The haste is telling too, which is giving me hope (then I think of Vance and the despair resumes).
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It is also admission of guilt
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✅️😖🥊🧯
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That's definitely a feature, not a bug.
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Honestly, I figured the pre-emptive signed pardon was part of the on-boarding process.
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This scares me so much.
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If one of his doctors reports show he is mentally compromised, will those pardons be legally valid?
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They’re lawless at this point.
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That’s done by design.
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In the end, they end up pleading guilty to accept it and then we shame the hell out of them and any employer, so they never hold any job of any importance if they get a pardon.
History will be written and their crimes will be very public.
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He can't pardon anyone until they have been convicted od a federal crime. And then the pardon must be worded to address the particular crime convicted. Can you see a lazy ass, senile old fart like Tramp doing that for 1200 people?

I can't. This is just more DJT bullshit to keep staff from quitting
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Well said. I see you've gotten the hang of this.
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Sure is....what we have to look forward to.😑
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States can still indict if there were crimes against their people. We’ll get them one way or another.

Trump is saying, if you work for me, I’ll give you a full pardon bc everything I want you to do is illegal.

Have they no morals or a sense of being a responsible American?
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No. No they don't. They are greedy and self serving
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Their loyalty is to tangerine Palpatine.
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Their loyalty it to tangerine palpatine.
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A preemptive pardon is not a thing. It’s immunity. Trump has no power to grant immunity even if they try and call it a pardon.

It’s a word game that only a fool would rely on as protection from future prosecution.
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Or he is very ill.....
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Conspiracy to commit criminal offenses, bribery, gross misuse of Executive powers, worker exploitation.

The Epstein Class wants us to see they are untouchable. Let’s see how that strategy plays with the working class.
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That seems like a no no, legally.
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Not only that but it’s acknowledging that everyone around him are criminals
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As suggested many posts earlier that der trumple's administration is criminal laden, his announcement of mass pardons for his clown cabinet & other staff, was expected. However, if he gets impeached first, then the clowns & others face criminal charges. Indictment Day is coming. Woo Hoo!!
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THIS IS CIVIL WAR.
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They are betting on his loyalty to his minions.
They are betting on his health.
They are betting there will never be an investigation.
They are betting they can not be identified.
These are not safe bets.
One day they will read a headline and be hit with the realisation of consequences.
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When AI takes over and cops are robot bees… I don’t think I’ll even be mad about it; fuck people
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I am not a legal expert by any means so I would like to know how you can pardon someone not convicted of a crime yet? I don’t recall any president in my life giving preemptive pardons. Come on Blue Sky, help me out, I know there are some people here that are knowledgeable on this topic.
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SCOTUS says he’s immune from prosecution, which is pathetic, but add it to the articles of impeachment.
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Add it to the articles. He can’t be prosecuted thanks to the corrupt SCOTUS but it is impeachable.
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Like the J6.
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Hopefully they can find state crimes to go after them with. Honestly I’d send them to Nuremberg for crimes against humanity.
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Its worse that that, it's premeditated collusion. Its aiding & abetting, it's racketeering. It fits in perfectly with the pattern this lowlife piece of shit wannabee hoodlum thug of a president has been engaged in all along. This is a great lesson in acceptance, about him, us, and his scumbag voters
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justice Roberts must be PROUD.
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There was a story “Time in Advance,” Galaxy Science Fiction, August 1955, about criminals serving sentences before being allowed to commit the crime.

Not exactly the same as the pardon offer but close enough.

#ScienceFiction #Galaxy

archive.org/details/galaxymagazine-1956-08/page/n4/mode/1up
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mutiny on a horizon?
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. . . and at any severity, even homicide.

A do whatever Donald says order.
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Which is exactly why he said it!
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With Trump I would want the pardon in my possession.
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I saw this in the movies. Tom Clancy, Harrison Ford...what was the name of it?
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A piece of paper doesn’t protect you from the people. Remember the fate of the collaborators post WW2. My father was there and he told me the stories, it wasn’t pretty. People don’t like being betrayed.
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Yup. It’s Christmas
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Q: if some staffer gets pardon and then "unlives" Drump, he/she can not get prossecuted?
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Fun times we live in
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Isn't it also 'enabling' in that YOU KNOW they r doing criminal things, as are you and you are making it/insuring that criminal behaviour continues
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Implying they are criminals
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He’s all “fake it til you break it!”
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Hadn't thought of that angle...
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Why do they need to be pardoned in the first place.
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There aught to be a ruling that if a president is found criminally guilty, as yours was before election mind you, all pardons should be remanded followed by full punishment for all
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Day 1 of the new presidency: limit pardon powers.
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If he is impeached and thrown in prison will his pardons uphold?
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Preemptive pardons. Reminds me of this guy!
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That's nice. Now go back to the kiddies table.
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Yes exactly. The Republican Party is no longer a political party. It’s a crime syndicate running a protection racket. For criminals and their cohorts
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No kidding!!!
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Yup. Time to impeach this criminal.
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From my perspective, when a president has the power to pardon convicted criminals, for any reason at all, means they are above the law, which should never be allowed in a proper democracy.
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December 2024

Biden gives son Hunter 'unconditional' pardon
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His brand of loyalty costs
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Pretty fucking certain this is why everyone said the supreme Court shouldn't grant him immunity is slow him to run for the presidency again given that he'd already tried to overthrow the powerful transfer of power once before...
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Yeah, that's the thing. We can assume that Trump just extended legal immunity to his entire administration. So, expect a dictatorship.
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Is this applicable to Biden and his son?
No other democratic country in the world has such unchecked presidential pardon powers, only US clowns.
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The whole point . He made the promise so they are free to be as evil as required of them.
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Almost like the mob, almost.
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This is great. the colors are fantastic. So enjoyable to see.
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Daily!
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To go the "extra mile" if and when needed from now untill November..
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That clock is tick tocking with those swollen ankles and dementia ridden brain .... keep an eye on his autopen in his waning days ...
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It tells Trump’s staff that he expects them to break the law on HIS behalf.
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Surely not the intent of the pardon. Needs to be challenged.
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Thank the Supreme Court, they basically said he is untouchable and unaccountable for any act while he is POTUS. He has no shame flaunting this power.
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No one has stopped him in 80 years of criming why start now.
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Trump to Bondi: Lie, break the constitution, make every move to save me, I will pardon you.
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He’d have to have presidential status to do that, so he should go down first.
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“Break all the laws while we can! Trump’s gonna pardon us!”
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I swear I'm not trying to be Captain Bringdown on purpose but if this is true... well, yikes. And yes I know there's the matter of state charges but damn...

"...the legal validity of an absolute, open-ended 'blanket' pardon for unnamed future-committed crimes has not been fully tested in court."
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That’s the point you see.
Their crimes give him control over them.
That’s how Trump operates.
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BUT, Donnie dear, as soon as you pardon them, THEY ARE FREE OF YOU. You can't, so far, give a conditional pardon with an NDA. So, it's tricky, ain't it?
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Conspiracy against the United States
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Rescind every document 47 has signed, problem solved.
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Makes me wonder what prompted it. Like, maybe his staff is becoming more reluctant to follow his orders.
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It has become normalized. People just shrug, it's Trump being Trump. Pardoning criminals, but not just any criminals, but those who are accomplices in HIS OWN CRIMES.
The revered Constitution is crying out for new amendments to obviate obvious conflicts of interest of this sort.
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All crimes committed after this announcement should not be included.
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They probably said to themselves damn I can really bust loose now!
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He is consistent when it comes to breaking and abusing the law. I'll give him that. Very consistent.
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Justice for all. 😒
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Now that I understand what this regime that wasn’t ever supposed to be an administration at all is…

Makes sense. Helpful even.
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Stephen Miller with a get out of jail free card.

What could possibly go wrong?
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On federal charges. President can only pardon federal crimes. Now if any state charges him and is convicted, he's toast
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I can’t believe SCOTUS did not foresee this when they gave immunity to Trump.
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Because our president works for other countries. @reed.senate.gov
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Hopefully they won’t forget their is life after politics. Their lives and reputations ruined for ever.
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We thought he wouldn't get a second term. "Forever" is shorter now.
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For federal crimes only.
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Let’s hope he dies suddenly before he can get it done.
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Yep. Don’t worry I’ll pardon you but if I die before I do
Sorry
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Every day is worse
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indeed - we would be greeted as liberators.
An internationally appointed transitional government to ease the transition to democracy and within 15-20 years America could be allowed to rejoin the community of civilized nations
But who would make up the coalition?
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As if we needed proof to know the crooks and liars are crooks and liars.
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What did I miss? (So hard to keep up)
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this is obvious
you might be getting flooded-zone fatigue
which is understandable
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Call your representatives and demand that they support H.J.Res.13 - Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States limiting the pardon power of the President.
www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-joint-resolution/13
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But which staff won’t be getting a pardon?
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Putin is winning. Creepy
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But you have to believe he won’t stroke out before granting said pardon or you’d be SOL… play stupid games, win stupid prizes…
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Pardons were supposed to be for people who made a mistake. Not for life-long criminals continuing their life of crime.
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Uh.... yeah. That's the point of the announcement right?
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