At least Obama's hypothetical Death Panels would have decided who deserved to die based on a rubric more complicated than "did they just piss off a high school dropout armed by the state"
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Those misfits are the dregs of humanity.
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they would not have decided "who deserved to die"......
that was an invention by the right-wingers....

it was just an effort to encourage people to sign living wills, which was perfectly reasonable....
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I detest this comparison - comparing a false narrative to reality

The media chose not to push back hard against ACA lies

This lie was perhaps the 1st

Rather than clearly stating that

Counseling on what is involved in how you want to be medically treated if you aren't able is not a death panel
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Ice does not need fire arms that are leathel. They need squirt guns.
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Who’s making 200k per yr to do it the cruelest way possible
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Exactly!!
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That’s what i voted for!
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If Trump can pay for his ICE goons to harm people, then the money can be found to pay nurses to save people.
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Nothing could be truer.
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Like fuck, most of us were aware that the Dark State is KKKrasnov and Ko. I hope EVERY MAGA finds out the hard way!
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The human Condition.... #EasilyLed #Rebellious #SelfExamTime Proverbs 6:16-19 Amen
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Not to mention the fact that they were in no way “death panels,” but your point stands.
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Boom 💥
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never heard of a death panel. Comfort measures only orders for a patient is done strictly under family consultation and other legal and ethical safeguards, at least in my state.
Is this something is one of those poor healthcare and no laws red states like TX, TN and AK?
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There were no death panels. It was an anti-ACA scare tactic that distorted the idea that insurance should cover a visit with your doctor to plan your care options at the end of your life. Options like who will make decisions for you if you become incapacitated and if you want a DNR order
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They're baa-ack. Remember when the GOP lost its mind over “Death Panels”? Well, for real this time: These for-profit AI Panels will roll out this January in six pilot states: ARIZONA, NEW JERSEY, OHIO, OKLAHOMA, TEXAS, WASHINGTON.
www.newsweek.com/medicare-will-start-using-ai-help-make-coverage-decisions-next-year-2111093
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No shit. Spot on.
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Death Panels was Michele (Crazy Eyes) Bachmann's weird take on insurance coverage for end of life counselling. That's where it started and the GOP invented all the rest.

So not even remotely hypothetical; it was complete propaganda.
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In the least, due process should be essential for immigrants before imprisoning them.
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The "death panels" are absolutely laughable now lol.

Basically, we are being terrorized by ex Burger King employees (who ate 90% of the inventory).
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Secret documents reveal Don's gestapo is targeting and spying on US citizens www.kenklippenstein.com/p/21-secret-ice-programs-revealed
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Renee Good. Armed with a smile and kind words. Such a huge domestic terrorist.
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The insurance cartel IS the “death panel.”
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I’m still mad Obama didn’t clap back that we already had death panels, they’re called Insurance Companies.
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No, no, no.

Obama's death panels would not have started with the brown and poor folks.
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Why feed the MAGA scam that the Affordable Care Act EVER had any kind or form of "death panels." Nor, do doctors who treat patients outside of their approved coverage DON'T got to prison either.
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Death panels have existed as long as medicine has cost money.
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And also, Obama didn't have death panels, OR death squads.
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Better yet, why don't you duct tape everyone's mouths shut and tie their hands behind their backs so they will "behave">?? (Sarcasm) This is not the America anyone but Trump and his family and administration want!
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The "Death Panels" were not hypothetical. They were a lie, started by Sarah Palin.
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We can't rationalize it now; I quit voting/politics 2000-2015 after SCOTUS refused Gore a complete & full Florida recount
~ stole crucial election from WE THE PEOPLE
Gifted BUSH WH
Time for 9/11+fake WMD, GOP bank dereg, embezzled war💰💲
+military supplier fraud & relatively few criminal charges
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Republicans falsely accusing Obama / ACA of creating death panels was pure projection, and now we see, republicans are willing to go there with AI / deciding if you get care or not. AI isn't human. They have lost their sense of humanity.
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The ’death panels’ (TM Fox News), were about helping patients avoid useless tests. Mammograms save 1 life per 10,000 screenings.

They are a wonderful diagnostic tool and a horrible screening tool. These facts were then twisted by GOP.

Whole body CAT scans already had passed on for similar reasons
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I’m not saying breast cancer shouldn’t be prevented or screened. It’s that a medical test that ends up with 40% of patients getting unnecessary tests and treatments, and not actually changing the number of lives saved is actually a waste of money, by definition. There are plenty of papers on this.
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If they were even real, which obvs they weren’t
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Best thing I have read all week!
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~68,000 americans are killed annually by private insurance death panels. they're not hypothetical. obama did murder activists more discreetly, I suppose, leaving their charred bodies in burned out cars in ferguson after sending in the national guard to beat the "thugs" there into submission.
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Plus all those drone strikes inside sovereign nations!
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GOPig projecting.
They are the Death Panel
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The “death panels” lie always infuriated us. America already has death panels. They’re called insurance companies. At least a government run system would have a chance of being accountable to the people via their elected representatives.
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ICE Emergency Press Conference:
"Agent Ross's alpha male feelings were bruised by a female, and there are now serious consequences in place for such offenses"
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I am a disabled veteran. I am offering protest T-shirts.

Here is my latest T-shirt idea, it’s not available for sale unless I get permission, but if I ever do, this will definitely be one of the shirts I sell.

youtube.com/shorts/muOBG6g1YEM?si=jlR2QVDikL376x49
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Don’t give Rogan air. He’s one of the reasons we are here. F*uck him.
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There were Death Panels during Obama’s administration. They are called “health insurance companies”
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If only Obama had followed his campaign promise to rollback the overreach of the Executive Branch.
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High school dropout here. Pretty sure that all ICE agents dropped out in kindergarten
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High school drop outs catching strays for no reason. Trump admin are all (mostly?) college graduates.

Let's stay focused, friends.
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is he a high school drop out ? if so that tracks
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The "death panels" refer to US health insurance scams that have mandatory subscriptions, minimum down payments and deny claims by nature, an anti-life death pannel. No jokes, no hypothetical at all there. But point taken!
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When a company takes your money, but lets you die by pannel, that's called a death pannel. It also costs the both US consumers and the government more than any other real health care system in the world, per capital or in total. Go figure! It makes no sense but to their lawyers and customers.
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Please think of a better way to get your point across then reinforcing the idea that Obama had death panels. He didn't. It's the insurance companies that have death panels under the guise of prior authorization.
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In 2023 over 10,000 black people killed by other black people....in 2023 all school shootings accounted for 21 total deaths.

I am positive this fact will fall on deaf ears, hypocrisy is oxygen here
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How often did we have to listen to hysterical conservatives about how democrats jack booted thugs were going to come for their guns? But now they are totally ok with masked jack booted violent thugs going door to door looking for irregularities.
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And then they’ll come for the guns and the MAGA kultists will willingly hand them over.
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They were projecting so hard, people could build cinemas around them.

Any form of progress – or checks and balances – would've stood in the way of the sort of armed totalitarianism they had long wanted to impose upon all of the US.
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Losers. Ridiculous BS
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so. very. true.
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Yeah everybody wants to conveniently forget about Alex Jones saying that they bought millions of body size cofin boxes and had the things just piled up outside government offices 😆

It's 2026 Alex!! Obama didn't kill us all
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Death panels were always the Republicans plan. Remember they are projection artists and look at where we are a lot of people are facing death for the lack of coverage or no coverage
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Every accusation is a confession.
Every fear is a desire.
Every warning is a statement of intent.

Projection at its finest. They fear death panels because they want death panels. They cry about stolen elections because they steal elections. And they're obsessed with perverts in bathrooms because...
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The death panels have quietly existed since Reagan. Why you think Luigi allegedly did what he allegedly did?

These people really LOVE "hiring" the most unqualified cult of personality they can get their greasy mitts on. The stupider the better. Quioxtes perfect as his brain is already melted.
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The current death panel is filled by Republicans where won't support ACA subsidies rendering health insurance out of reach for millions
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the current death panel is democrats
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The most obvious thing to me when that started was that they believed it because it's what they would do.
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Thing is that the death panels already existed and still do. People other than doctors and thier patients have been deciding people are going to die the entire GD time
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They were fictional GOP crap, not hypothetical.
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When satire hits harder than policy analysis, you know the system’s been upside down too long.
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INSURANCE COMPANIES OPERATE DEATH PANELS EVERY DAY, AND THEY DO IT FOR PROFIT. obama never proposed this shit it is a literally feature of for profit health denial system
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I'd forgotten about those supposed panels the right wing was pushing. Of course, the GOP will end ACA supports and kill all the poor and middle class indiscriminately.
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Be fair, you can't say for sure he was a high school dropout. Could have been a home-schooled dropout
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Why hate on homeschooling? Idk how anyone thinks I should be sending my kid to a bigoted red hat school so that he can also be propagandized and lied to

Not only has my kid always been more advanced than ‘his grade’ he has time to do and learn about things he actually likes & real history lmao
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My nephews were homeschooled……I love them ,they are good boys . What else I can say about their homeschooling education ?
They are brainwashed!!! And not bright , to be honest. I love them anyway
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Also goes to show, given MAGA’s glee at shooting protesters in the face, that Sarah Palin and the pre-MAGA Tea Party’s outrage over made up “death panels” was never about “liberty” or “freedom.” It was always about a Black man being in charge.
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Actuaries = Death panels
Palin is a twit
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Obama did not have a death panel. Stop spreading republican s lies
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Obama!

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This is perfect!

Also, as a policy I follow all accounts with topological space puns for handles 😅
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At least the fabled "death panels" suggest deliberation before passing summary judgement. Trump's roving brute squads (and health insurance companies) have no such compunction. "Cruelty is the point."-A. Serwer
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One that hit them with an SUV?

Not very inclusive to demonize someone because they are poorly educated.. imagine if the agent were a POC.. oh my.

Im curious how changing only the race would change the response. I white woman runs over a black man who was hit by an SUV.. be honest with yourself
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“Is the Gooner Squad in a place I need to be, for work or obligations? Welp. Guess today is the day I might die.”
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And they'd be more accountable than the "death panels" that we already have.
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ICE is full of the people who thought wrestling was real through high school.
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The death panels began back in the 70s with HMOs and bean counters. This is not how health care is delivered. The Showers at Auschwitz were the promise of the first hot showers for weeks.
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Martial law is here.
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Did the Grouch on Sesame street irritate someone! The grouch paid for it. As did Mr Rogers legacy.
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Dark sarcasm aside, the reality is that arbitrary violence enabled by the state is far more horrifying than any bad-faith hypothetical ever was.
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Unrelated. That is the funniest name I have come across in a long time.
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That's what I was saying the other day, but some peoples' pesky consciences couldn't let them vote for Kamala because she wanted funding in HLS.
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And, what did his pals in ICE revove from his home besides clean undies? There might just have been shit to hide, given what we know of militia types.
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Death panels looking more palatable with the fascists in control.
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And a rubric more compassionate than "can we turn a profit off their premiums?"
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7th. grade dropouts. U forgot about reading comprehension.
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PS there death panels they are called insurance companies.
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What the actual hell is wrong with you
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In retrospect, we should have known that this accusation meant the GOP was considering death panels.
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Hey - leave us out of it.
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AI summed it up better than I could. Death Panels were never a thing.
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Or match the wrong color on a skin tone chart.
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Correction //
“… an ex-Proud Boy, J6 terrorist and failed LEO high school dropout”
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All are welcomed to join our Party, no donation required. We stand for equality and the safety of our citizens. We will not be silenced as we take back America! We fight and stand for justice and will protect our citizens, by any means necessary.
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High school?

More like middle school.
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No need for death panels with the Trump administration. They want us all to die.
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As far as I know federal employment requires a GED or a diploma from high school even if you have an MBA. But the laws do not mean anything this is a totally Lawless government.
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Death panels have always existed in America. They are a part of private insurance companies.

It's fucking ridiculous that progressive politicians won't say this.

America is a stupid, racist, illiterate, country. The American dream is to leave.
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Also, insurance companies literally do this all the time, that’s how they determine what procedures and medications they’re willing to cover, and what your copay/co-insurance will be. If it’s tax funded healthcare, all voters get a say and it has to be completely transparent! Insurance hides it all.
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This is beside the the point, but the death panels do exist. They’re insurance company board rooms.
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Sticks and stone may break my bones

But names will get me a bullet to the head
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Also, we HAVE death panels.

We’ve had them for decades.

The ‘insurance’ folks constantly denying our healthcare.
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They weren't Obama's death panels. The Republicans made that up.
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Exactly. 💯
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Or are they brown? Or are they female? Or did they vote for someone else?
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can we not insult people that drop out of high school? There's all sorts of reasons someone may have dropped out of high school. It's literally FREE to not be an ignorant and judgemental. You have NO IDEA what is going on in a person's life.
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Robert Kennedy is on the case of letting the genetically inferior die. If they needed vaccines they weren't Master Race specimens anyway.
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The comments are really struggling with satire.
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I see your point but those "death panels" were made up by Republicans and were never in the bill.
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So true. Awful but true. Instead of calling them “G.O.P.” we should just call them “gop” an amorphous sounding name that conjures slop, sop & glob—appropriate.
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Do you people even hear yourselves?
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And instead of govt death panels we have corporate ones that make the decision based on whether they want to keep your money and let you die, which it turns out they do.
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Americans get shot & die randomly by the masked guys who cannot provide their identity.

When Americans ask their identity, they get attacked, kidnapped & detained, but family members cannot get information where they’re.

If a pack of masked men aren’t domestic terrorists, who are they?
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Those "death panels" already existed, they're just called "Corporate policy" among for-profit health care insurance companies and that's considered perfectly correct under capitalism so the GOP never complained about them.
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Advisory panels have been in place is every hospital for decades. It was nothing new for President Obama. No hospital in their right mind would do a heart transplant on an 88 year old.
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With a tiny dick
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Those were Sarah Palin's brain child.
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You are so correct. ICE thugs are truly inept thugs without a brain.
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With a $50,000 sign on bonus. With paid hotels, meals, and rental cars.
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Well they do have to purchase all their own equipment..... Or is it just the uniforms they are not given?
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They have to wait for that to vest. They will never see it.
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For real. Btw, I LOVE your screen name!
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Every accusation a projection, to a whole new level (low).
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Your insurance company does it, what's the big deal?
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The "death panel" was a renamed advise to fill out a POLST form or living will so your relatives would know your wishes if you weren't conscious to tell them yourself.

POLST polst.org/form-patients/
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Pedantic side note: a rubric was a marginal note in an illuminated manuscript (in red, hence the name). Now that monks with quill pens are quite rare, the jet-propelled chromium-plated word of today is "algorithm".

But the point you make is a good one. ICE makes the Inquisition look scientific.
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“Don’t rock the boat” and “let bygones be bygones” is how we got here
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My god you’re stupid 😂
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One man has the courage to tell the Emperor Pedophile, out loud, exactly who he is. Well done sir. He shouldn't lose his job for telling the truth.
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"Obama was less horrible than Trump" is such an inspirational message in these dark times.
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The so-called 'Death Panels' were in reference to patients with a chronic disease preparing for death with loved ones (expenses for funerals, etc.)... Republicans disingenuously represented death panels for fear-based political reasons...
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I'm sure that this is something that many of us have thought about. I'm thinking about it more and more.
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Not with the current administration‼️
Captain Canklesaurus just got someone fired, for using his 1st amendment rights...
Shame on Ford for capitulating‼️
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Fucking Merrick Garland for dragging his feet.
Trump and many others should be in prison for insurrection.
USAF vet 🇺🇸
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Ohhhh get em!
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Hey, health insurance companies use a complicated rubric to decide who dies too you know! Like, how many yachts the executives want to buy and stuff.
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If they were deciding based on anything other than rule-of-law, what difference does it make that they were Obama's?

The Reich-wing resorts to that kind of argument because it undermines rule-of-law. Fear, uncertainty and doubt leave voters with only blind faith to cling to.

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It may feel good to punch back with similar sophomoric arguments, but it undermines the foundation we need to build rule-of-law.

We cannot fall into that trap if we are going to steal voters from them and flip Red States.

False binaries help the two fascist parties, not progressives.

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Rule of law let's American leaders away with immoral acts against humanity. It's not the beacon of light and hope people hold it to.
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Reagan instituted Death Panels in the 80s, in case you didn't know ... they're called HMOs! Doctors decide who gets treatment and who dies with insurance.
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The Death Panels were in Sarah Palin's tiny imagination
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AND HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF AS WE SEE! WAKE UP, CHICKENSHIT AMERICA, BEFORE WE HAVE NO USA TO DEFEND!
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D H S account posted this January 11, 2026
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Here is a perfect illustration of your point
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