Also imagine if people were like “China threatens the existence of Chinese people worldwide because it wraps itself in Chineseness to justify its atrocities” (which it regularly does!). It’s an obviously bigoted argument in the first place.

March 16, 2026 - 18:42 UTC

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Prefacing this with my agreement that people’s antisemitism is their own fault and not Israel’s: how does China as a country feel about ethnically Chinese people who live outside China?
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The overseas police stations, and treatment of Singapore, tell here.
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In places that aren’t Taiwan, I mean
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The PRC generally considers the child of a PRC citizen born abroad a citizen, and has claimed that without the child or a parents request.
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The is a bad analogy that really just serves as a strawman to argue about bigotry instead. You don't honestly address the point at all and there are obviously circumstances under which the premise could be true. For example, Japan certainly did this in WWII.
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I might not bring up Japan in WWII when oppositing the position that says internment is unjustifiable.
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I’m not agreeing with him, but this isn’t exactly a fair comparison. Israel regularly poises itself as the voice of the Jewish people on the world stage—many of whom want and have nothing to do with Israel. Your analogy would be fitting if they only claimed that for Israeli people, but they don’t
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China hunts down American citizens of Chinese ethnicity to harass them
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China does this not only for Han people but for its own minorities that it oppresses!
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That's also true of PRC re ethnically Chinese people. I don't see where analogy breaks down.
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I'm not going to endorse this line of rhetoric entirely, but I'm perfectly comfortable saying that the USA endangers the existence of Americans abroad. I'm also comfortable saying the same about Russia with "ethnic Russians".
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But if someone vandalizes a Russian Orthodox Church in Pittsburgh or something, that’s not morally “because” of VVP in a way that’s a meaningful defense of the vandal.
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There is a strain of American Jewish leftism that holds the same delusion as Marx or Freud that there is an ur-cause of anti-semitism and if you get rid of class/childhood pathology/Israel it will vanish.
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We love Zur Judenfrage don’t we folks.
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Sure but like to a first order approx the urcause is Christianity
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Israel does a lot of terrible things that we must demand an end to. This is true of many states. But it is extremely noticeable that before its creation antisemites blamed Jews for not having a state and afterwards they blamed Jews for having one.
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"If we are very small and powerless and quiet maybe no one will notice us" - I mean sure but a) history says they eventually will and b) when it happens it'll be a lot worse.
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Not just American, unfortunately. Israeli Leftists do plenty of that shit.
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It’s a useful case for the idea of memes. Some ideas are simply self-perpetuating, and mutate opportunistically to adapt to new cultural environments.
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mondoweiss.net/2023/09/jewish-settlers-stole-my-house-its-not-my-fault-theyre-jewish/
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Noah kulwin thought
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This is intentionally obtuse. Obviously, this is discourse that currently happens, however bigoted, around more recent states in contested areas. Also like, this is how countries acting as military belligerents are talked about. Look at American sentiment toward Germany, Italy, Japan thru time
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