I think an error people make is that Trump never facing consequences is not a thing that extends to the people around him. He may never pay for his actions but that aura doesn’t cover anyone else, supporter or opponent
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Well, there’s the pre-existing parallel never-facing-consequences track (which does not always seem to apply overseas post-Epstein). I think maybe they were worried they were losing it, is why we have him, the @jeisinger.bsky.social book being referenced here
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We're going to need an American Nuremberg for the formal justice.

For Trump, the justice will have to be less formal.
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Another error is giving Biden/Harris/Democrats a pass for not taking him down.

They warned us about "the end of democracy" then treated him as a legitimate statesman.

Do-nothing Democrats are responsible for this.
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It certainly doesn’t protect his supporters from scorn, shame, and humiliation
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A pardon would.
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I can't help but be skeptical of pretty much every detail of this
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Who in US history has ever been held accountable for anything at this level of government?
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Several Nixon Cabinet appointees went to prison, but not for very long.
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As Veronica McDonald notes, while nobody in the Trump administration may face consequences under the US system the rest of the planet will be out for blood.
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It extended to all the many people he pardoned.

The russian mafia concept of "krysha" is very much in play with trump. Part of his aura of power is the assurance if you crime with him you will be protected.

It is a huge priority. All the way down to trying to pardon Tina Peters.
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They must believe they will remain in power indefinitely. They have no intention of relinquishing the White House. The Republican Party is an existential threat. Trump, will, of course, pardon himself and everyone around him. But that's no guarantee. Remaining in power is their only protection.
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Until the next Republican pardons them.
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Pardons don't help post-guillotining
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Not if we make them toxic enough Rs won’t be willing to do it. Especially if we can make sure there’s no R president for a while
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And yet none of them have been accountable. All his toadies related to 1/6 are all free. All his toadies in congress are not only free they’re conducting hearings making good guys the villains. After 10 years none of them have been held accountable and it feels like they never will.
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Frogs keep giving rides to that scorpion.
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Like Kissinger did.
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he had to endure Stephen Colbert dancing around his desk that one time
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I bet he would cut a deal to testify against them, which would mean getting him to testify against himself (he has no self control), get his people in jail, and convince any future enabler to think twice
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False hope. You will be proven wrong. So you mean to say that the rule of law, the rails of justice, congress, SCOTUS and the institutions will be resurrected when Trump kicks the bucket? All of them were already protecting the Epstein Files class even before Trump.
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Except all the pardons, you're kinda skipping over that detail
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They are going to use Trump as a scapegoat. This is a regency not a presidency. Like George III, the regents are in control. They censor the information Trump gets and give him advice to get him to do what they want. Then they claim the decisions are solely his. Trump is a meat puppet.
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The upside about using a dying meat puppet as a scapegoat is that they assume he’ll die with their secrets.

They’re like the Privy Chamber or, in American, the Toilet Cabinet. They have close physical contact to the President without a paper trail or recordings to document what they tell him.
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May they make him pay today! Since we won't.
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Are you 80 with a cult? Then you will pay the price.
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I always feel dismayed when I think abt how Trump can give out federal pardons like candy. So what I would find very helpful for morale is for someone knowledgeable to write an article specifically abt ways Trump admin officials are committing state crimes & other ways they could be held to account.
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Sounds like he needs some consequences. Also fuck his pardons. Challenge them as part of a criminal conspiracy. Also stack the courts and impeach his justices. Scorched earth on maga going forward. Enough of being a global threat and laughingstock
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Maybe this time, Trump will meet the legal consequences that he so richly deserves. Maybe, one can hope.
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I think they are counting on pardons.
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you know what they say: a teflon Don with a scratched surface can give people cancer
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Patton Oswalt said it the very first term, “Trump’s Teflon Umbrella covers Trump and no one else.”
It’s sort of amazing people still haven’t figured it out.
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It will be hilarious if he dies before pardoning any of them.

Like, will pardons be in his will?

We could conceivably have an ex Attorney general of the United States arguing to the Supreme court that a president can pardon people posthumously.
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It never has. He's evil Mr. Magoo
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Pardons and pathetic losers like weak dems and feeble ag garland will
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The pardon power is royalist bullshit unfit for a free republic. It should be abolished.
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Well, except for the pardons.
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He doesn't have much time left (due to health) but all his lackeys will be alive to be prosecuted.
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I think about this nonstop. Only Trump can do what Trump does. Everybody else is a collaborator just waiting for their day
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That's why it's so amazing that anyone would *ever* choose to be in his vicinity.
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On paper? Sure but in practice thus far, they have successfully created very soft landings for many of those involved in crimes in his first administration, working to make it softer.
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What consequences did any of the politicians involved in Jan 6 ever face? Sure the lowly rioters got put away (for a while), but ... how can we have faith that after all this is over, someday down the road, there will be consequences for anyone? It'll be all "bury it so the country can heal" crap.
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