And then these fuckpiles of human beings, after taking their child’s children away, will force them to pay fucking child support.

Even though they always have means, and their child does not.
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I try not to speak in absolutes like this. I keep thinking maybe there will be a case out there where good grandparents just have to go this route

I’ve yet to see it. And the grandparents ALWAYS win in these cases. Because family law/guardianship/dependency judges always suck. Always.
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Like, if a grandparent who had to file a guardianship petition comes across this, I need you to introspect. Because I do mean you. I don’t care how fucked up your child is. Filing a (contested) guardianship petition against your own child is violent abuse. End of.
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