Kinda seems like whether or not the president has the power to assassinate people with no due process, no input from Congress, no review, no oversight, and with no obligation to provide anyone with any information or evidence other than “trust me” is an important test of our democracy.

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It was Obama's attorney general who said, "'Due process' and 'judicial process' are not one and the same, particularly when it comes to national security." This was in defense of the extrajudicial murder of a U.S. citizen in a foreign country.

Obama set the precedent, Trump is just running with it.
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I have zero doubts that having the ability to order extrajudicial executions has been Trump’s lifelong ambition.
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i'm not sure he understands what that means/implies. His ambition has been unchecked power and now that the supreme court and a congress filled with spineless lackeys have granted him that power, he's like a drunk at an open bar.
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Response to this shows how little value the majority have for life
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An even dumber MIckey Spillane.
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"Boat bombings" is what the MSM calls Trump's murder spree.
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would have been nice if trump dabbling in domestic assassinations in 2020 had been of any interest to the democrats in 2021
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Time for others to reconsider the kinda of person Trump is and just exactly why they would want to help,assist,support this kind of person??
Say NO to Trump!!
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This is what we were all angry about when Obama did it but there was very little push back and that was wrong because it was wrong and because it led to this.
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It would also be nice if Dems were making a bigger deal out of it; you know, since it’s murder.
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Well now, Democrat Presidents don’t have those powers, only Republican Presidents do. That’s what the founding fathers intended and, besides, anything else would be unfair.
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Things used to matter more.
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That's a test we already failed when we allowed Obama to assassinate an American citizen because he felt it was too difficult to capture him and put him on trial.

We aren't going to give more rights to foreigners than citizens associated with a terrorist group. The horse left the barn a decade ago
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Thank you! I felt like I was going crazy looking at the comments and thinking this was a thing that presidents have been doing for a while.
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I mean, there is no way to read Trump v. United States that isn't 5 votes that this is legal, right? ACB did a concurrence that "hey, this safeguard against prosecution for executive power usage doesn't hold if something was obviously criminal done under color of law" and got nobody to cosign.
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he’s not the only one who can be held accountable (and yes he can pardon anyone but make him)
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I hope they get the testimony and use it to impeach and remove the orange ass hat.
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The brazenness is new but the President unilaterally killing whomever he wants is not
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A test we are failing at every turn.
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It's immunized murder. It used to require a Sandra Bullock plot. SCOTUS said don't bother.
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Almost the most fundamental aspect, you'd think.
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A test that Republicans are more than happy to fail.
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Well said, and yes by that standard our democracy is failing.
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And we're failing that test, as these murders barely create a ripple among the population.

Trump has flooded the zone with so much scandal and corruption that nothing stands out. 😑
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Presidents JFK, LBJ, and RMN, reviewing things like "Project Phoenix"

why yes, we have had the ability to assasinate and murder people at will, at least if they are dark skinned

why do you ask ?
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See this is why I thought droning Al Awlaki’s kid was an issue because in a very real sense that set the precedent for these strikes
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I wish we had the capacity to have this conversation in 2002, and again in 2008, and again in 2017, and again in 2021
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The Supreme Court thinks you're overstating things.
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Trumps supporting cast cant afford to lose the next election because there could be some serious charges stacking up

Still, I dont think another election is in their plans
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Trump may have immunity, but those carrying out these orders don’t. And I think Adm. Alvin Hosley knows that.
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Very odd framing by the headline. A high ranking resignation is quite literally the most bloodless event in the story so far.
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Well outside the US we figured out where you were with that when you let him unleash economic warfare on the entire globe, when in fact he does no tariff power.

So that’s when we knew you had utterly rolled over. You’re the last to really get it.
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Has always seemed like the orange psycho envied Putin for having been a killer in his own country, these illegal international killings are the psycho’s attempt to show that he too can be ruthless.
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That test was failed when Trump bragged about dispatching a fed hit-squad to gun down Michael Reinoehl in the street for defending himself against neo-nazis
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He bragged about this at every rally for the final 60 days of the 2020 election. Media just didn’t mention it.
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Truth
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Even if he had a history of trustworthy behavior, it wouldn't be good for our democracy
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At least at this point he's still justifying it. That's something.
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Good on SouthCom Commander Alvin Holsey. ,
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The Supreme Court already ruled that a president is allowed to do this. Biden was too soft to do what needed to be done to prevent this.
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Kind of also seems like “practice,” which worries me. Not too many steps before its citizens abroad, and then …. Here? I know the guardrails, the guardrails. But they haven’t done much so far.
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They no longer exist in Drumph 2.0.
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Yeah, except it is us, We the People, that are taking these actions. All of these government acts are undertaken in OUR name
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If he can murder unilaterally at sea, he can do it at home as well.
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The judiciary didn’t just fail that test, they actively affirmed the dictator’s power to murder political opponents; Sotomayor made that clear in her dissent.

Without them, it’s no longer “our democracy” resisting, just us, the public, along with the minority in a Potemkin legislature.
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Potemkin legislature describes our present predicament perfectly.
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interesting that the resignation is the “darker turn,” and not the extrajudicial murders
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That's what I've been saying! When the fascists act illegally, Congress MUST take action, and personally I don't GAF if it's legal or not. Arrest them all, imprison them, and let the courts sort it. That's what the fascists are doing, after all. STOP THEM.
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Also being able to send $40 billion to Argentina while our government is closed and our troops and federal employees are not getting paid. 🤔
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