And if you don’t know, now you know! 🚫GenAI on Bluesky 🦋☁️

October 24, 2024 - 08:07 UTC

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I'm throwing the 📌 at this
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I am very thankful that Bluesky has formed and is growing like it has been.
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They're such Chads 🫡
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Hope they will stay true to their word, for many years to come.
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That’s awesome news. I’m glad I joined blue sky.
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Great 👍
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Thank you so much for reaching out to Bluesky and sharing their reply. It's making me feel even better about moving my creative stuff off of Twitter. No Block feature and this Ai garbage really just didn't sit well and I already went through a purge 7 months ago with all the Meta platforms.
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I also discovered in the Moderation Tool Settings there is a Logged-Out Visibility Toggle. When I turned it on and shared a link on Discord the usual image preview was no longer there and it was just the link to the post I was sharing.
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LETS FLIPPIN GOOOOO!! 🙌
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This is what we NEED 👏
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This, warms my heart.
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Thank God for this site, I left twitter and never looked back
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Massive W
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Pretty based if you ask me
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This is why I decided to start posting my art on here. My art may not be the best but I refuse to let it be used by AI “artists” 😤
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Oh Nice… I’m actually surprised to see them openly confront that rumor
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This satisfies us, the pencil and stylus warriors.
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They may not be doing it directly but I’ve def I had one AI text me on here. Or it was just a really really awkward person
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www.yahoo.com/news/why-x-users-leaving-social-121015486.html
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LOL.

www.404media.co/someone-made-a-dataset-of-one-million-bluesky-posts-for-machine-learning-research/
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I guess that’s what twitterX is for now; teaching algorithms that if they see anything on here that looks like X content, that’s more likely in need of moderation lol.
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finally
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Yeah exactly. It might be an open web therefore more "vunerable" for some randos to scrap our arts- bUT it didnt came from blusky themselves & still illegal. N honestly, awful people will find a way do awful thing like breech twt's security regardless. A lock is just a way to keep honest man honest.
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Plus you can set it so people have to actually log in to see your account as well as use lists of AI losers to block a lot of them at once
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And sure it helps that the social media itself is not on the creeps' side, like the xwitter is... xD
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"does use AI internally to assist in content moderation"

See this is the stuff that AI is actually useful for, and what the industry should be pursuing. AI should never replace creative effort.

Of course, AI moderation decisions should ALWAYS be appealable to an actual person.
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Honestly wish people would be more nuanced about AI, the way people talk about AI being bad in all cases makes me feel really guilty for using accessibility software in order to have a voice because I can't use my vocal vords which simply wouldn't be possible without it
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Hell yeah, massive BlueSky W!!
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thank you
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I love the transparency here!
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Great to hear. I still would advise protecting your art from others with glaze or other similar items however. But a very nice stance to hear from them : )
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Another Bluesky W
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I can't believe it, a site that care about us?
Amazing
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Another day, another Bluesky W
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Aww fuck yeah.

Finally some good news. Thanks for asking.
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@euejinmin.bsky.social
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Unfortunately they can't stop other companies like meta from training AI on bluesky content as long as it's publicly available. Please don't get the impression that there are no AI being trained on bsky!
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Also other AIs can train on open profiles. Bluesky is totally open.
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Ok cool , so what all DOES bluesky use AI for if anything?
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bsky keeps winning 🙏🏻
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Massive W for Bluesky hell yeah!
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Nice
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YEP YEP I downloaded nightshade to see if I can fuck shit up with any random people stealing art from the site but it is still a massive relief to not be automatically scraped by the site itself.
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💯!!!
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It should be noted that it is not only Bluesky.
So far, the ban for AI training on your content has been introduced:

Bluesky

Blackmagic Design (their Cloud storage)

Vimeo.

Cloudflare has developed a tool (based on AI 😏) that blocks the activity of AI bots on your resource.
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Based Bluesky lessgooooo
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Such a breath of fresh air
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Good news! #GoodNews #GoodNewsOnly
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Let's not forget that "AI" is a hot term in computing right now
When they say this for moderation sake, it could be just an algorithm and they just slapped "AI" on it just to sound cool
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This automatically makes this the best place for artists, glad someone has morals
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need them to explain why their new board member is a crypto shill who retweets genAi images and tweets about how awesome memecoin is
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Holy shit, a social media platform that actually listens and pays respect! That's a rarity these days!
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BlueSky remembered what it means to be social media and not ai media
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Thank Goodness. Reposting so my artist friends can see this.
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Good. Burn the robot
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And that's how it should be.
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Keep this on file and weaponize it against Bluesky to keep to their promise. Don't want any funny Arin Hanson saying un alive me if I do let's plays then later making Game Grumps type shenanigans you hear me.
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so that's why moderation is a mixed bag, GenAI has zero fucking idea about context and is severely inferior to human moderation
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genAi isn't used for moderation, it's a different type of AI, but yes otherwise you're right
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It's actually so surreal to me scrolling through the comments and not seeing ads and bots.
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May I ask how long it took for them to send you this reply?
Because my inquiry to Bluesky about them literally breaking German law has been conveniently ignored by them so far…
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That's good to know! 😊❤️❤️❤️
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BSKY FTW!!! 💕‼️🎉
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Yet
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Ok yay!!
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Hope it stays that way in the future!
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LOL.

www.404media.co/someone-made-a-dataset-of-one-million-bluesky-posts-for-machine-learning-research/
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i love the wording of "Not trained on User content"
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Meanwhile I sent a similar query to twitter support to get clarification about the policy change and was told I'd "receive an email confirmation of my ticket" but never did.
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I remember once I tried to fix my birthday cause it was set to 1999 when I originally created it and but it back to 2000 and they tried to ban my account despite me being an adult at that point I tried to fix it. 🙃 so it's forever stuck in 1999
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Unfortunately I believe this ad I saw on 🐦 the other day explains everything.
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Twitter absolutely trains ai's on its app

You have a very limited capacity to protect yourself against that

1. Check your settings there is one AI model that you can remove permissions for (but because they are training multiple you're out of luck there)
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No one left working there to answer questions any more.
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Not surprised at all. If you want any support at all from them all you get is "Subscribe to Premium!" Absolute joke. That's how they handled my account when it got borked for 8 days for no apparent reason.
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average bluesky w 😎👍
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I love to see that! ✨
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So is all good?
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It's not used to steal or generate content by using others content I assume. They probably use it to identify trends to fit users tastes for the discover tab and moderate bad stuff
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Hope they're not lying
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Now THIS is what AI should be used for! Bluesky W! 🙌
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Thank you, Bluesky. Very cool. Please don't turn your back on the artists who flocked to you once Twitter let them down.
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THIS. THIS IS GOOD.
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WOOHOOhoo thank God!! BlueSky W!!!
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Common Bluesky W
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HECK YEA 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
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Only caveat I will say - a web crawler could still grab your art and feed it into an AI model regardless of site rules.

If you are posting art anywhere and want to not only limit it's impact but actually harm it - learn how to add Nightshade to your images.

nightshade.cs.uchicago.edu/whatis.html
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Wasn't it proven these don't work?
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Fuzzy weighting is a fine use for AI.
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💛💛💛
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This is a big relief
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I also read that you can hold click on a # and you'll get an option to see all posts from that artist with that #, or any on that particular page!
Which I think is a suuuuper great feature!!
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It’s honestly impressive how easy it is to slam dunk a better site by being on the creator’s side
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Just save this image as a just in case!
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Was shared this & shared it on Twitter - if there was ever a reason for creators and artists to move over to this platform!!! This should be it. Thank you for asking them their stance!
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Transparency and communication!! @bsky.app keep this up forever and for always please!
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As someone in cybersecurity and tech, I'm glad they specify that while they use AI, it's not Generative AI.

Generative AI is usually the one people have an issue with, given it's the one with all the drawbacks. The transparency and honesty is appreciated!
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Not to mention generative ai is expensive and resource hungry

Gen ai is a fools errand
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I really love how bad the "gen Ai" wording is to a company have to clarify they use algorithms for some part of the experience.
This is why wording is so fucking important on explaining things. But , u know, marketting.
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WHOOOOO!!! I’m home !!
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FUCK YES FUCK YES FUCK YES!!!!
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Lets hope they stay true to their word. I don't want this place to become an absolute hellhole as well
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To be safe, use GLAZE still. It might be outsider AI ..
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@laurastahl.bsky.social you no longer have to worry anymore
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Please Save That Image so we have Proof if they ever try to turn on us
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That's a relief 🥰✨️
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Common bluesky W
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Still poison your art, Bluesky is open app and welcomes ai with open gates which still trains on your art.
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Let's GOOOOOOO!!!!!!
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Great to hear. I wonder if they will also ban scrapers.
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It’s really sad that this gen ai (transformer and diffusion models) have muddied the waters so much that actually useful AI things like image recognition, edge detection, upscaling, OCR, and other such machine learning models all get a bad rap.
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Soldier from TF2: Now THAT I like to see!
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this is soooo good to know
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with this in mind I will definitely start posting my art here more
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FUCK YA I was worried about this it’s nice to be re assured
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Finally, a place on the internet where everything it shows represents a real thing!
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OH MY GOD I LOVE THIS APP
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Virgin Twitter vs Chad BlueSky
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It's so good to know !!! Thank you 🙏🙏😭😭💞💞💞💞💞
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Will @bsky.app @support.bsky.team make this a legal/TOS-level commitment?
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Genuine question: isn't Sky easily scraped by big AI companies tho? Sky may not be directly giving AI stuff, but this website is vulnerable. Any site that can be viewed without login can be scraped. Twitter requires login before viewing, but they're feeding their personal AI soon. Sky feeds any.
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yay!
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I read if you don't know, now you know to the tune of Emperor's New Clothes that PatD song
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Whats going on yesterday @notherpuppet.bsky.social
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So, if AI looks at your stuff to moderate it, doesn’t it learn from the experience? Isn’t that the point of it, that it doesn’t stay fixed? Seems like BlueSky does not understand the tools it uses 1/2
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. . . Perhaps that’s why AIs skew racist, because they are used to moderate the most atrocious things that humans come up with . 2/2
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Doesn't go against ai scrapers. There are algorithms that doesn't change the look of your art seen by humans but it does mess with ai. Artist should implement that if they don't want their art being trained on by ai.
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But, the user base will keep it
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Bluesky rules! 🦋🦋🦋
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wait slayy???
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I’d actually like it if their content moderation AI was trained on users content. Specifically content reported and actioned. So that the tooling becomes more intelligent and less reliant on content being reported in the first place.
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That's generally how it works. There's still some mistakes here and there but a lot of automated takedown function this way.
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But can't other ai systems still scrape bluesky?
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The large AI companies can scrape anything that is visible. This does not mean it will not have consequence if they do not have permission. (Unfortunately, legal systems need to catch up.)
In addition:
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1) they can always change their mind 2) this doesnt say they wont sell your data to ai companies 3) they already using ai and are funded by crypto companies 4) your art is still accessible by ai scrapers
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1) Yes, obviously. The terms of use can be changed at any time.
2) No doubt, as they all do. Companies are all evil.
3) AI is an extremely broad term and there's nothing inherently wrong with it. Copyright is a special case of specific types of AI.
4) If you post it publicly, it will be scraped.
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The cynic in me is like "yeah, of course they are cool now, they need more people. Let's see this energy 10 years from now if they manage to get mainstream"
Hope im wrong
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By the time the site gets Too Big To Fail That Fast genAI is gonna have exploded, to be fair.
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Same. We just gotta enjoy it while it's still good. Enshittification will rear its ugly head later lol
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to be fair, god knows what any of us will be doing in 10 years.

or if it will even involve social media accounts.
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So that's another twitter fearmongering myth, busted!

My friendship ended with Twitter, Tumblr, and Deviantart... Now I'm friends with Pillowfort, Newgrounds, and Bluesky!
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Same here, but rarely use Newgrounds and Pillowfort. Instead, I use Pixiv.
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just to say: with skyfeed or any feed tool everybody, even a KI bot, can extract any content from bluesky. And use it to train any AI. Even if bluesky don't use such tools.
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@negapeta.bsky.social
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Goated 🙌
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- use ai for content moderation and algorithm

Can we just drop ai from this? Lma
It adds nothing really
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LETSGO
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We so won
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We love to see it!
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Using AI to help with moderation is actually fantastic, so long as the AI is kept in check to maintain a healthy medium.
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This is honestly such a relief! Thank. God.
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A good use for Al is to detect diseases before they get worse, such as cancer for example. Generative Al is bad for our environment, especially its use for images, videos, text, etc. All my homies say the same thing, no joke.
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"None of these are GenAI systems trained on users' content"

But ARE they GenAI?
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The Discover Feed algorithm, no. The way it works, it's not generating images based on noise, or text based on seeds or however LLMs work.

The stuff that helps moderate… uses the like "what is this image" type AI and the "summarize this text" type AI though.
Not generative, but still AI.
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This is what I think of AI in its current context and the Bluesky stance on that.
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@danimilkyart.bsky.social
@lyontothepast.bsky.social
@kanicandraw.bsky.social
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BlueSky é o paraíso mesmo, quem diria
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É isso que a gente quer
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W Bluesky!
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Let’s go
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