In interviews with other progressive podcasters. I assume some clips hoo but I can’t place where exactly I heard them. In my opinion his goal is apathy. His job is to make potential dem voters think they are hardly any better, everyone sucks so just stay home.

April 02, 2026 - 16:18 UTC

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He just aided the flotilla which brought like half a million dollars of solar panels and 20 tons of food and medical supplies to Cuba and he is a fixture at LA protests but apathy means different things to different folks ig
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Not outreach apathy. Voting apathy. You know, just take a slice out of the margin—that’s how elections are won & lost in the current era.
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