Oh, so you are saying that just before we embarked upon a war that turned out badly for us, our leaders engaged in some all-star hubris towards the representative of a deity?

Really getting pretty classical in here.

April 08, 2026 - 19:20 UTC

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Explains a lot about the Catholic response honestly. It wasn't a surprise to see them against this, but the Pope was unusually forceful and direct. I imagine the first thing the Cardinal did after the meeting was phone up the Vatican and said "Trump's guys threatened to do a schism"
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Throwing the chickens off the boat level stuff.
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Could also go biblical - telling off Deborah didn't go great for Barak. (tho he did still at least win his war, more than can be said of Trump and co)
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playing in my head over and over what if the vatican envoy had responded with nothing but this biblehub.com/1_john/5-19.htm
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What is the original source?
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Didn't even wait for portents on the Ides of March
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LOL, Colby was the one to say that?! The dude who whined not to waste munitions for China against the Russians?!

God, he’s an even bigger fraud than I had already imagine.
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"How many divisions has the Pope?"
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I feel the need to note, hubris is *really commonly* misused in English.-

Hubris (ὕβρις) is not just arrogance or pride, but rather it is an *action* (there's a verb, ῠ̔βρῐ́ζω) - an insult or affront to an equal or superior designed to humiliate them which is born out of excessive arrogance or pride.
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I vaguely remember a college class where we went over ancient Athenian court cases. One was a guy who, after beating up another man, flapped his arms a squawked like a rooster. He was accused of Hubris
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Like Odysseus taunting the Cyclop.
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"I am super cool and amazing" - pride, arrogance even, but not hubris.

"You are lesser than me" (said to an equal to humiliate them) - hubris.

These Trump guys, insecure narcissists, looooove doing real hubris to try to fill the bottomless pit in their souls.
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Oh, that explains why the modern Greek verb for "curse out" is a descendant of ῠ̔βρῐ́ζω.
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O'erweening pride
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The one I remember from undegraduate days is ἄτη. Never really heard a great definition, often translated as madness. But again, it's active madness, not just delusion. (BTW you motivated me to install a polytonic keyboard app!)
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The guy says he's Catholic as well.
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I mean not everything was bad about the Avignon papacy was bad.
E.g. I have several bottles of Châteauneuf-du-Pape in my cellar and they are quite lovely.
So let's turn Mar-a-Lago into a ketchup farm, which is the closest equivalent I can come up with.
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Wasn’t it Stalin who dismissively asked how many divisions the pope commanded? Trump is always in the best company. 🙄
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*tapping the sign*
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All time classic meme.
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Called it
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Starting to wonder if they made am American Pope specifically to try and head off the US making an Anti-Pope.
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I mean, I don't think they bring up the Avignon Papacy if they are talking about an antipope.
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I had to read it 3 times before it didn’t say “The antelope is installed in Miami”.
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The fourteenth-century weapon is just
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How do I mess things up with Vatican for Dummies
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"Fuck that Zeus guy, he ain't shit to me" Trump was heard to say shortly before an unprecedented barrage of lightning strikes pulverized Mar A Lago

I'm not a fan of the Catholic Church on any level, but it's a global behemoth - picking fights with the Chicago Pope is world class dumbfuckery
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How many regimen... gold covered toilets does the pope have, anyway?
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Trump would just get Rubio to walk barefoot to Canossa for him, but this pope would make him wait a week and still turn him away,
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Did this actually happen? Is there a link to the story?
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Follow the chain of quote tweets and you get this bsky.app/profile/christopherjhale.bsky.social/post/3miytblozyk2t
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Let's just say that I really resent having to side with the Catholic hierarchy on something.
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